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According to HS2 Ltd’s official map, Crewe would be provided with a high speed station on the Y network. However, other HS2 documents say that

  • the high speed line would pass under Crewe in a tunnel,
  • there would be no HS2 station there, and
  • trains would not stop anywhere between Manchester Airport and Bickenhill (“Birmingham Interchange”).
HS2 Ltd map showing a full high speed station at Crewe

HS2 Ltd map showing a full high speed station at Crewe

Another example of HS2 Ltd staff not understanding their own scheme can be seen in the company’s map of Toton connections. There is no northbound access from Nottingham to the East Coast Main Line.

HS2 Ltd map showing northeastern classic link to 'the East Coast Main Line'

Written by beleben

February 26, 2014 at 11:37 am

Posted in High speed rail, HS2

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  1. Neither map has any sign of East Midlands Airport on it.
    But Hub Hub, hooray!

    Michael Wand

    February 26, 2014 at 11:55 am

  2. There appears to be a sort of northbound access from Nottingham to the East Coast Mainline at Newark. It involves two reversals after going over the ECML level crossing. That sort of thinking fits in with the rest of the logic behind this scheme.


    February 26, 2014 at 2:28 pm

  3. My understanding of Crewe is that HS2 trains bound for Liverpool or Preston will stop at the existing station. All HS2 trains bound for Manchester or Scotland will pass underneath Crewe station without stopping.

    According to the Assumptions Report published as part of the HS2 business case in October 2013, 12 HS2 trains are expected to stop per hour at the East Midlands Hub station (Toton). The indicative schedule suggests there will be just one classic train per hour from Toton to Derby, so expect plenty of waiting time at the HS2 station. There is no sign of a train service from Toton to Nottinghham, so the tram line will need to be extended. The best guess is that this journey will take 20 minutes from Toton HS2 station to Nottingham city centre. Should your journey be between Nottingham and London, you will find the classic rail alternative service has been halved to one train per hour post HS2.


    February 26, 2014 at 2:54 pm

  4. Crewe has been bigged-up as an HS2 “hub”. The problem is that relatively few trains stop there: two per hour, both half-sized classic-compatible units from centres (e.g. Liverpool) that are destined to be poorly served. Meanwhile, 80% of the available seats (mostly unused) will be sailing beneath the station through a high-speed tunnel without stopping. Expect standing room only.

    matthew jones

    February 26, 2014 at 6:45 pm

  5. The Northwich Guardian website has posts on HS2 and Crewe at the moment:

    Michael Wand

    February 28, 2014 at 8:23 am

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