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Northern beef shortage continues

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The Wigan to Bolton railway is to be included in North West electrification, and scheduled for completion by 2017, the Department for Transport has announced.

A joint taskforce made up of “experts from Network Rail and the DfT” and involving train operators, local authorities including the Rail North consortium, “the supply chain” and local Members of Parliament will provide the Transport Secretary with an interim report within 12 months setting out how further Northern electrification schemes “can be brought forward”. Routes to be examined will include:

  • Leeds – Harrogate – York
  • Selby – Hull
  • Sheffield – Leeds
  • Sheffield – Doncaster
  • East Coast Main Line – Middlesbrough
  • Sheffield – Manchester
  • Warrington– Chester
  • Crewe – Chester

So the Northern beef shortage continues, and with the government having no clear plan of action or strategic vision, policy making is being farmed out to a random selection of MPs and local worthies.


Written by beleben

December 13, 2013 at 3:13 pm

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  1. How about they keep going from Bolton past Wigan to Southport and Kirkby (with at some point a switch from overhead to 3rd rail) ?

    Richie S

    December 13, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    • With the Merseyrail fleet being up for replacement in the next few years, there are some interesting options available.

      But at the moment, numpties seem to be in charge.


      December 13, 2013 at 5:05 pm

  2. The Press Release states “The £266 million which has been awarded to local authorities since the start of the fund will enable local transport improvements of over £511 million to go ahead. Based on the estimates received from promoting authorities, the schemes awarded funding from the fund to date have the potential to support more than 200,000 jobs and around 150,000 new homes.”

    So, in simple terms 90 times the £551M “have the potential to support” 18,000,000 new jobs.

    According to HS2’s statement, £50,000,000,000 on HS2 will generate:

    “Phase One job creation

    9,000 construction jobs;
    1,500 permanent jobs;
    30,000 jobs in station redevelopment areas in Euston, Old Oak Common, Birmingham Interchange and Birmingham Eastside.

    Phase Two job creation

    Phase Two is forecast to support the creation of 48,700-70,300 jobs, as well as 5,200-7,600 houses.

    Jobs in construction: 10,000

    Operation and maintenance jobs: 1,400
    Western leg

    Station-supported employment: Manchester Piccadilly 29,700-42,900 jobs; Manchester Airport 300-700

    Station-supported housing: 3,100-4,100 (Manchester Piccadilly)
    Eastern leg

    Station-supported employment: East Midlands Hub 1,500-1,600 jobs; Sheffield Meadowhall 4,000-5,400; Leeds New Lane 13,200-19,700

    Station-supported housing: East Midlands Hub 150-800; Sheffield Meadowhall 250-300; Leeds New Lane 1,700-2,400”

    Or have I misunderstood the figures?


    December 14, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    • It seems likely that local road pinchpoint relief, and local public transport schemes, provide much better economic outcomes pound-for-pound than HS2.

      But what gobbledygook like “the schemes awarded funding from the fund to date have the potential to support more than 200,000 jobs and around 150,000 new homes” is supposed to mean, is anyone’s guess. Apparently the investment mentioned in the press release doesn’t ‘create’ more than 200,000 jobs. Nor does it ‘support’ more than 200,000 jobs. But it does ‘have the potential to support more than 200,000 jobs’.


      December 14, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    • HS2, viewed as a factory: £50bn investment buys 2,900 jobs total. The construction jobs are temporary.
      The jobs & houses supported by stations are supposedly calculated using Crossrail methodology, which doesn’t account for job migration from the north to London, or jobs moving to the station from within the region. These are not new jobs, but existing jobs moved around.
      Original HS2 documentation for Toton: 1,500 jobs (minus 600 jobs lost due to business premise demolition) & 150 houses. But the green belt land adjacent to the station is being developed for 800 houses with offices for 200 jobs. The new documentation reads: 200-1,500 jobs & 150-800 houses. And the Crossrail approach applies to urban stations, not isolated transport hubs.
      Here’s Volterra’s report into maximising economic benefit at Toton: build a housing estate next to the station, which would happen anyway. Note the concern that capacity release will have negative economic impact, yet cancelling half the Nottingham services is already in the business case. Will Derby manufacture the HS2 rolling stock?
      In contrast, road improvement is necessary to allow housing estates to be built.


      December 15, 2013 at 11:42 am

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