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What is Go HS2 costing?

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The GoHS2 high speed rail campaign describes itself as a Pro-HS2 West Midlands Coalition of Centro, Birmingham City Council, Birmingham Chamber, Birmingham Airport & NEC, Marketing Birmingham, and Birmingham Future. So most of its members are public sector bodies, or bodies in receipt of public funding.

What aren’t clear, are Go HS2’s funding and staffing arrangements. How many staff and staff hours are attached to Go HS2, and how are its costs apportioned between the members? How much has been spent on the Go HS2 campaign so far by each member?

I’d like to ask those questions. But, as might be expected, the Beleben blog is blocked on the Go HS2 Twitter feed. So much for transparency in local government.

Written by beleben

June 21, 2012 at 3:11 pm

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  1. Really enjoy your blogs. Tweet under @zaphs2. Have GO HS2 not got a website and are they not subject to FoI requests. Would be interested to know


    June 21, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    • Go Hs2 might not be subject to FOIs, but some of the other bodies are….

      Joe Rukin

      June 21, 2012 at 11:04 pm

      • Although it’s a “campaign”, it’s not even clear what Go HS2’s legal status is.

        So it’s surreal to see Alex Burrows tweeting about campaign transparency:

        How does Go HS2 rate in 'campaign transparency'?


        June 22, 2012 at 11:53 am

  2. I still don’t know what bodies in the West Midlands think they will gain from having HS2… it will release a small amount of extra capacity on the local rail lines, something you could also do with better timetabling or respecification of the local Coventry-Birmingham-Wolverhampton service anyway, and with local trains being overtaken by expresses at International in both directions.

    Birmingham’s economy is being hit hard enough by the closure of many of the biggest remaining factories in the last few years, and possibly in the future by Kraft moving people out of Cadbury’s HQ, without the prospect of Birmingham offices of companies closing because the “economic benefits” of HS2 might make it less “competitive” to keep both London and Birmingham offices open – evidence is clear worldwide that London is likely to gain as Birmingham loses from being “closer” to London, so what do they think they have to gain? Trains to the Continent? Birmingham-Paris could be 3h45 now with current signalling/infrastructure, around the 3h30 threshold for winning traffic from air.


    June 22, 2012 at 12:29 am

    • As you say, HS2 would make very little difference to a Birmingham – Paris rail through_journey time. Most of the time savings would come from removal of interchange penalties (the break of journey in London).


      June 22, 2012 at 12:14 pm

  3. I think a more pertinent question is…

    Who funds the Anti-HS2 agenda? That’s right, your own councils. ie you do. Instead of fixing your roads or sorting out traffic or emptying your bins every week, your councils put your money into a frivolous pursuit of lobbying against HS2.

    So what we are all saying is that our own money is going into campaigns FOR and AGAINST HS2. Either way people, they’re both wrong.

    But when people on here are complaining that public money is being used towards the FOR agenda, you are displaying clear double-standards.

    It’s really quite pathetic, but not unexpected from the Beleben blog. A clearly blinkered Anti agenda from someone who has little or no knowledge about railways in this country and someone who doesn’t ever acknowledge the opposite side of the argument, or indeed state why he feels he needs to be “anti” all the time.


    June 22, 2012 at 1:30 pm

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