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The Weaver Vale test

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Graham Evans, Conservative MP for Weaver Vale, has, ‘slammed‘ the “ragtag alliance of luddites and nimbys” opposing High Speed Two.

“The high-speed rail link between London and Manchester is absolutely essential for promoting investment in northern constituencies like mine but unfortunately there appears to be a ragtag alliance of luddites and nimbys making ludicrous arguments against the plans.”

Here’s the facts.

  • Weaver Vale constituency doesn’t have a frequent express train service to and from London.
  • It’s even less likely to have a direct High Speed Two service to London.
  • The concept for High Speed Two is fewer stops. Most likely, the nearest HS2 station for Weaver Vale would be Manchester.

So it would be a case of head north to Manchester, to go south to London. Wiping out most, if not all, of the slender time savings from HS2’s higher speed – about half an hour with the ‘phase one’ Birmingham to London section in service.

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  1. Are you talking to John Whitelegg – would be useful to exchange commentary – I’ve done a reckon-up on the Paris Manchester and I ‘do’ STP-EUS in under 5 minutes – stack that in with the sub 2h 10m, for a Manchester train with 4 intermediate stops, and ‘slows’ for parts of the route, so you’d get 4h 25m (current) somewhat adrift from Greengauges 5h 50m and this would improve if running non-stop with some of the worst slows eliminated.

    An internal route badly adrift is Newcastle Bristol but can discuss this later.

    Dave Holladay

    February 13, 2011 at 12:24 am

  2. […] have any provision for HS2-enabled services to places such as Stoke-on-Trent, Stockport, or Weaver Vale (whose MP, Graham Evans, is one of the most vociferous supporters of high speed […]

    HS2 Merseygate « beleben

    February 9, 2012 at 4:08 pm

  3. The HS2 must rejoin the WCML somewhere in Cheshire or Lancashire for services to Scotland. If the chosen location were at Weaver Junction there are many advanatges.

    A new “Runcorn South” station could be built at Clough Wood on the Runcorn Southern Expressway (where two railway lines cross), there is room for local transit and parking with very easy road access. This would provide a non-stop HS2 service all the way to London from a station a mere 8 miles from Northwich.

    But, and importantly, this would provide the best possible service time for Liverpool. Apart from classic-compatible trains Liverpool-RuncornSouth-London it would also be possible to run HS2 captive trains London-Runcorn South (terminus).


    February 25, 2012 at 4:53 am

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